What hit you as 'true' or made you say 'yes' in this article? How do you (or don't you) relate to the author's discussion? Write a paragraph or so in response to this reading and post this in the 'comments' below...
This article hit me as definatly true. I can also relate to it is the same way that it is true. The part that I can relate to and a part that I found was true was in the sections of Acceptance and Approval. I feel like when I was reading this, I was thinking about our discussion about our biggest fears as artists. These sections got that. Sure an audience can be helpful to your work, but they do not understand the real connection that you are making with your piece, they never will truly understand the reason. But also more so an audience can put down what we think we are doing with the piece that we are creating. And I find it true and can relate to it because those are the ?'s Is it art? and Is it good art? that are always going through my head even after we talk about it, to be honest, for every new piece that I do. It also makes me feel comforted that more then just us are going through the ?'s Especially if it is printed in a book. -Beth
My favorite line of this reading: "Audience comes later. The only pure communication is between you and your work." This sums up what I found true of this article. The creation of your work should revolve around you and your work. But, too often we create with an audience in mind--I know I do at least. It's always interesting to me that a lot of the really famous artists weren't appreciated until much later on. I think this is unfortunate, yet it makes sense. If an artist is bold enough to try something an audience isn't used to, thinking only of creating and his personal relationship to the piece, than the audience is going to be confused. But I think that's ok, so does the author of this reading, because later on others might understand, and if they don't at least the artist understands.
I think it's hard to make art personal. If we make it personal and really connect with it and someone bashes on our work it just makes it harder to keep going. However if we choose to not make things personal were also risking making things that just don't have that depth and feeling that some of the most known artists out there have. Our need for acceptance seems to be a wall we hit in art. I think we just need to focus on our pieces and not worry about the audience. If they hate it so what? People hated some of the most famous artist's work in their time. To be understood right now is typical so why not let people think about your work so may be it will be appreciated later. Let's face it our world today likes instant gratification (so do we as artists) and art isn't always an instant gratification. Maybe were just ahead of our time. Maybe our art is a look into the future of art. Maybe not but why should we sit around sulking that someone said our work was bad when we can start on other pieces that we may like even better than the work before. Just don't let people get to you and keep creating from the soul. What really is art and who can judge what is and isn't? It's a point of view and everyone has a different one.
Good stuff...I identify most with the part that says: "We carry real and imagined critics with us constantly--a veritable babble of voices, some remembered, some prophesied, and each eager to comment on all we do." So true. From here it goes into some of the narrow guidelines that society places on an "artist." I will go as far as to say anyone who creates art is brave. Steering through the dense fog of other's criticisms to put your deepest feelings in the open by means of artwork takes the utmost courage. As humans, we have a predisposition to just "fit in" and a reason creating art can be so hard is because we are at a tension between fitting in with all the other artwork and going a different path. Temporary acceptance comes from fitting your art in the current situation. However, by striking your own trail, there is a chance of much greater, longer appreciation or your art. And the latter builds more self-realization.
I was hit right off the bat when the author said that "the problems arise when we confuse others' priorities with our own". I have to realize that the art I create should first be fun for me, an escape, and then appealing to others as a second. I tended to agree with what the author had to say about how when work goes well we tend to not care about what others think about it (keep the babble of voices quiet), but when things are difficult the opinions of the voices get louder and harder to tune out. I really liked the lines, "we've all felt the hurt of the little boy who wanted to write poems and, or the little girl who tried to join the sandlot ball game". I also found it interesting that the world supports art that's been around longer and how I feel that I have to fit into that criteria of art that's already been established. I need to not be afraid to expand my art a little...
i loved that the author talked about the fear of art being accepted by others as art. i think that knowing that all, or most artist in the world have the fear of their work being accepted makes it so much easier to make really personal art and unique art, because knowing that others have the same fear just makes it so much easier to be open. although i think all art people make is personal, thats why its impossible for 2 different people to make the same thing, because everything you make is unique to you, and to your experiences.
At first when I started reading this article I thought oh, great this is going to take a while. After I got into it a little I kept getting hit by little truths. I really like the part where it talks about how you can explore new things or create what is considered art. This is so true because I have experienced this in a few of my pieces. Instead of really making what I wanted to make, I listened to what others were saying and did that instead even though I probably wouldn't have done that on my own. It wasn't until I stop listening to what they wanted me to make and just went with my heart that my pieces turned out in a way that I was proud of them and enjoyed making them a lot more. I also really like the quote "There's no such thing as good art or bad art" because it is so true. Even though we may have our personal opinions on a piece, we are in no place to call it good or bad because many other people have different opinions than us and we all make pieces that aren't as strong as others.
I thought the Acceptance section was really cool. The point that really hit me was, "When your work is counted, will it be counted as art?" I experienced this at the school openhouse for potential new students. A boy looked at my wire piece and asked, "Is that art?" I am a Senior in high school and this middle school boy hurt my feelings, but it is a question I have always dreaded. Acceptance and approval are powers held by others. The article explained, "the world offers vastly more support to work it already understands--namely art that's already been around for a generation or a century." That quote helped me to not get mad and sad becuase the boy was ignorant and he had never seen any art like my wire piece before.
The part that I related to was the being understood, or rather misunderstood portion. Not so much with just art, but also with my writing, I am usually very wary of people construing the wrong conclusion. As art always holds a bit of the maker I sometimes get overly conscious that people will try to figure out what part is a piece of me in my art and writing and then draw conclusions about me that are wrong. Example, I sometimes have some very out there characters in my book usually coming from rather broken pasts. Because of this, I'm always freaked out to let other people read my work because I think they'll assume I've got a horrible home life or am angry with my parents etc when that is completely wrong. LIkewise with my art some times I think of these cool ideas I'd love to look into, but find myself rethinking because the art could be seen as dark or disturbed looking and I'm afraid people will start wondering about me. There was another section, I really wasn't sure about, when they went into the forging a new path section, about finding your own unique artistic identity and not being stuck following what is accepted as art. My problem with this section is, while it is true no one should feel limited in their areas of art to what is accepted as art, I don't feel like that means people who are doing art that is accepted are wholly abandoning thing own artistic ideas. I really like painting realistic scenes. It's the kind of stuff you can easily identify and yes, people do usually know it instantly as art because it isn't really breaking completely new ground. But I'm painting it not because I want people to like it, but because I like being able to replicate the real through paint. It's like a fun challenge to get the colors right, to figure out the angles and brush marks. The reading kind of made me feel like I should feel bad about doing art that is commonly accepted as art. Like I'm boring and forfeiting to the critics. So someone else ages ago warmed everyone else up to realistic images made with paint? It doesn't mean I'm giving up my own artistic dreams by painting the same way. Anyway, I felt that should have been slightly addressed. People always talk about widening out the circle of what we call Art and pushing the limits, but I can't help, but feel that I'm being scolded for being in the current limits.
well, I read this and alot of of it was true but not a big deal in my mind. if someone doesnt like my art, oh well. I'm not going to let it eat away at me. the understanding section was interesting to me, because it seemed like it singled out artists as being extremely different from the "normal" person. but there is no normal" person. they are normal just by the fact that they are a person. i realize that people have the ability to single people out for being weird or different, but people need to learn not to care. if they're different than you, great, let it be. let them do what they want because it brings them joy. i dunno, this is kinda me just venting, but its how i feel.
My response to this article was relief. The line at the beginning that struck me the most was "the problems arise when we confuse others' priorities with our own". This line made me realize that I really do seem to ask for reassurance too much. Yes, it is good to ask sometimes but I think I have realized (after reading this) that I really need to only worry about what I think about my artwork first and foremost. Others opinion does matter in a sense, but not as much as the biggest critic, myself.
What hit me the most about this article is how the author talked about art being accepted as art. I don't do a ton of really abstract stuff but I feel like I can totally relate. For me it seems to be if something looks good enough or unique enough. I really like what Kyle said up there how he's not going to let it eat away at him. I think I need to learn how to find a medium where making art is driven by critisim and not. I think these articles and discusions have really helped me answer some tough questions. I also found it interesting how the author talked about others priorities can't be our own. This is so true. It's just so hard to see sometimes.
I think that with art and fear the biggest thing that hit me is the fact that people who are now huge names in art, music, acting etc. are people who have been rejected before. I think that's really encouraging for me because we always feel like we aren't that good at art, or when we get denied then we aren't surprised because we don't have very much confidence in our artwork. I liked art and fear because it helps remind us that sometimes is not the artwork that isn't good, its the fact that it doesn't fit into the collection, or that the judges of it aren't looking for that particular style.
This article hit me as definatly true. I can also relate to it is the same way that it is true. The part that I can relate to and a part that I found was true was in the sections of Acceptance and Approval. I feel like when I was reading this, I was thinking about our discussion about our biggest fears as artists. These sections got that. Sure an audience can be helpful to your work, but they do not understand the real connection that you are making with your piece, they never will truly understand the reason. But also more so an audience can put down what we think we are doing with the piece that we are creating. And I find it true and can relate to it because those are the ?'s Is it art? and Is it good art? that are always going through my head even after we talk about it, to be honest, for every new piece that I do. It also makes me feel comforted that more then just us are going through the ?'s Especially if it is printed in a book.
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My favorite line of this reading: "Audience comes later. The only pure communication is between you and your work." This sums up what I found true of this article. The creation of your work should revolve around you and your work. But, too often we create with an audience in mind--I know I do at least.
ReplyDeleteIt's always interesting to me that a lot of the really famous artists weren't appreciated until much later on. I think this is unfortunate, yet it makes sense. If an artist is bold enough to try something an audience isn't used to, thinking only of creating and his personal relationship to the piece, than the audience is going to be confused. But I think that's ok, so does the author of this reading, because later on others might understand, and if they don't at least the artist understands.
I think it's hard to make art personal. If we make it personal and really connect with it and someone bashes on our work it just makes it harder to keep going. However if we choose to not make things personal were also risking making things that just don't have that depth and feeling that some of the most known artists out there have. Our need for acceptance seems to be a wall we hit in art. I think we just need to focus on our pieces and not worry about the audience. If they hate it so what? People hated some of the most famous artist's work in their time. To be understood right now is typical so why not let people think about your work so may be it will be appreciated later. Let's face it our world today likes instant gratification (so do we as artists) and art isn't always an instant gratification. Maybe were just ahead of our time. Maybe our art is a look into the future of art. Maybe not but why should we sit around sulking that someone said our work was bad when we can start on other pieces that we may like even better than the work before. Just don't let people get to you and keep creating from the soul. What really is art and who can judge what is and isn't? It's a point of view and everyone has a different one.
ReplyDeleteGood stuff...I identify most with the part that says: "We carry real and imagined critics with us constantly--a veritable babble of voices, some remembered, some prophesied, and each eager to comment on all we do." So true. From here it goes into some of the narrow guidelines that society places on an "artist." I will go as far as to say anyone who creates art is brave. Steering through the dense fog of other's criticisms to put your deepest feelings in the open by means of artwork takes the utmost courage. As humans, we have a predisposition to just "fit in" and a reason creating art can be so hard is because we are at a tension between fitting in with all the other artwork and going a different path. Temporary acceptance comes from fitting your art in the current situation. However, by striking your own trail, there is a chance of much greater, longer appreciation or your art. And the latter builds more self-realization.
ReplyDeleteI was hit right off the bat when the author said that "the problems arise when we confuse others' priorities with our own". I have to realize that the art I create should first be fun for me, an escape, and then appealing to others as a second. I tended to agree with what the author had to say about how when work goes well we tend to not care about what others think about it (keep the babble of voices quiet), but when things are difficult the opinions of the voices get louder and harder to tune out. I really liked the lines, "we've all felt the hurt of the little boy who wanted to write poems and, or the little girl who tried to join the sandlot ball game". I also found it interesting that the world supports art that's been around longer and how I feel that I have to fit into that criteria of art that's already been established. I need to not be afraid to expand my art a little...
ReplyDeletei loved that the author talked about the fear of art being accepted by others as art. i think that knowing that all, or most artist in the world have the fear of their work being accepted makes it so much easier to make really personal art and unique art, because knowing that others have the same fear just makes it so much easier to be open. although i think all art people make is personal, thats why its impossible for 2 different people to make the same thing, because everything you make is unique to you, and to your experiences.
ReplyDeleteAt first when I started reading this article I thought oh, great this is going to take a while. After I got into it a little I kept getting hit by little truths. I really like the part where it talks about how you can explore new things or create what is considered art. This is so true because I have experienced this in a few of my pieces. Instead of really making what I wanted to make, I listened to what others were saying and did that instead even though I probably wouldn't have done that on my own. It wasn't until I stop listening to what they wanted me to make and just went with my heart that my pieces turned out in a way that I was proud of them and enjoyed making them a lot more. I also really like the quote "There's no such thing as good art or bad art" because it is so true. Even though we may have our personal opinions on a piece, we are in no place to call it good or bad because many other people have different opinions than us and we all make pieces that aren't as strong as others.
ReplyDeleteI thought the Acceptance section was really cool. The point that really hit me was, "When your work is counted, will it be counted as art?" I experienced this at the school openhouse for potential new students. A boy looked at my wire piece and asked, "Is that art?" I am a Senior in high school and this middle school boy hurt my feelings, but it is a question I have always dreaded. Acceptance and approval are powers held by others. The article explained, "the world offers vastly more support to work it already understands--namely art that's already been around for a generation or a century." That quote helped me to not get mad and sad becuase the boy was ignorant and he had never seen any art like my wire piece before.
ReplyDeleteThe part that I related to was the being understood, or rather misunderstood portion. Not so much with just art, but also with my writing, I am usually very wary of people construing the wrong conclusion. As art always holds a bit of the maker I sometimes get overly conscious that people will try to figure out what part is a piece of me in my art and writing and then draw conclusions about me that are wrong. Example, I sometimes have some very out there characters in my book usually coming from rather broken pasts. Because of this, I'm always freaked out to let other people read my work because I think they'll assume I've got a horrible home life or am angry with my parents etc when that is completely wrong. LIkewise with my art some times I think of these cool ideas I'd love to look into, but find myself rethinking because the art could be seen as dark or disturbed looking and I'm afraid people will start wondering about me.
ReplyDeleteThere was another section, I really wasn't sure about, when they went into the forging a new path section, about finding your own unique artistic identity and not being stuck following what is accepted as art. My problem with this section is, while it is true no one should feel limited in their areas of art to what is accepted as art, I don't feel like that means people who are doing art that is accepted are wholly abandoning thing own artistic ideas. I really like painting realistic scenes. It's the kind of stuff you can easily identify and yes, people do usually know it instantly as art because it isn't really breaking completely new ground. But I'm painting it not because I want people to like it, but because I like being able to replicate the real through paint. It's like a fun challenge to get the colors right, to figure out the angles and brush marks. The reading kind of made me feel like I should feel bad about doing art that is commonly accepted as art. Like I'm boring and forfeiting to the critics. So someone else ages ago warmed everyone else up to realistic images made with paint? It doesn't mean I'm giving up my own artistic dreams by painting the same way. Anyway, I felt that should have been slightly addressed. People always talk about widening out the circle of what we call Art and pushing the limits, but I can't help, but feel that I'm being scolded for being in the current limits.
well, I read this and alot of of it was true but not a big deal in my mind. if someone doesnt like my art, oh well. I'm not going to let it eat away at me.
ReplyDeletethe understanding section was interesting to me, because it seemed like it singled out artists as being extremely different from the "normal" person. but there is no normal" person. they are normal just by the fact that they are a person. i realize that people have the ability to single people out for being weird or different, but people need to learn not to care. if they're different than you, great, let it be. let them do what they want because it brings them joy. i dunno, this is kinda me just venting, but its how i feel.
My response to this article was relief. The line at the beginning that struck me the most was "the problems arise when we confuse others' priorities with our own". This line made me realize that I really do seem to ask for reassurance too much. Yes, it is good to ask sometimes but I think I have realized (after reading this) that I really need to only worry about what I think about my artwork first and foremost. Others opinion does matter in a sense, but not as much as the biggest critic, myself.
ReplyDeleteWhat hit me the most about this article is how the author talked about art being accepted as art. I don't do a ton of really abstract stuff but I feel like I can totally relate. For me it seems to be if something looks good enough or unique enough. I really like what Kyle said up there how he's not going to let it eat away at him. I think I need to learn how to find a medium where making art is driven by critisim and not. I think these articles and discusions have really helped me answer some tough questions. I also found it interesting how the author talked about others priorities can't be our own. This is so true. It's just so hard to see sometimes.
ReplyDeleteI think that with art and fear the biggest thing that hit me is the fact that people who are now huge names in art, music, acting etc. are people who have been rejected before. I think that's really encouraging for me because we always feel like we aren't that good at art, or when we get denied then we aren't surprised because we don't have very much confidence in our artwork. I liked art and fear because it helps remind us that sometimes is not the artwork that isn't good, its the fact that it doesn't fit into the collection, or that the judges of it aren't looking for that particular style.
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